From iain.henderson at mydex.org Tue Mar 3 15:07:07 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:07:07 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] NewOrg Proposal Message-ID: Folks, On the last call Joni gave us an overview of the proposed 'NewOrg' (name to be announced), which is what Liberty Alliance will become in April 2009. We need to decide as a workgroup whether to re- charter and continue to progress under the NewOrg banner. The essence of the proposal from the Working Group perspective is that we would gain the same status as the current Expert Groups. This means we can: - very low barriers to entry to a working group - choose our own IP policy (important as we inch towards specifying VPI and ways of moving it around). - publish documents and have them issued via NewOrg - continued provision of existing/ better project infrastructure On the call, we raised a few queries around whether Neworg would have a business as well as tech focus in order to broaden the discussion, whether Open Web Foundation might provide good approached to IPR Those of us on the call felt that there was every reason to progress on the proposed basis and little, if any, downside. If we decide to go ahead that we'll kick off the process of re-writing the charter and choosing an appropriate IPR policy. If anyone on the list objects to this route forward then please notify the list or me directly by end of this week or flag queries to the list - otherwise we'll progress with the re-chartering process over the next few weeks. Regards iain Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. From iain.henderson at mydex.org Wed Mar 4 02:38:40 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:38:40 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday Message-ID: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> Hi Folks, This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to flag up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is my meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of detail to work through. One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at present does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those who this time does not suit e-mail me back with other options which typically would work better and we'll see if there is an obvious better time for all. Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday 19th Feb 09) 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 CET; Dial In: US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 US toll number: 650-429-3300 SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# Cheers Iain Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. From info at smartspecies.com Wed Mar 4 04:29:31 2009 From: info at smartspecies.com (Mark Lizar) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:29:31 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> Message-ID: <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> HI All, I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday due to post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, Wed, and Fri, if those days are available I would be able to participate more often, Wednesday being the best day. As for an agenda item it would be good to take stock of working groups which may be related to see if there are ways to draw on similar efforts or energies. I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in the privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major interest in addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of interest is also present in global standardization for privacy protection. In this way perhaps VPI can provide some timely input. Regardless, I look forward to more discussion and being able to participate more frequently. - Mark On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. > > I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to flag > up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is my > meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI > agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short > version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the > structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of > detail to work through. > > One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at present > does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those who this > time does not suit e-mail me back with other options which typically > would work better and we'll see if there is an obvious better time > for all. > > Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings > > Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday > 19th Feb 09) > 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 > CET; > > Dial In: > > US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 > > US toll number: 650-429-3300 > > SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# > > Cheers > > Iain > > > Iain Henderson > iain.henderson at mydex.org > > This email and any attachment contains information which is private > and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are > not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- > mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-vpi mailing list > Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org From info at smartspecies.com Wed Mar 4 05:09:23 2009 From: info at smartspecies.com (Mark Lizar) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:09:23 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> Message-ID: One point I neglected to mention. I am currently working towards designing research to illuminate the value differences which are apparent when individuals are forced to sign organization-centric privacy policies/ terms of use then this places limitations on the information that will be shared. Focusing on issues that illuminate digital information autonomy in service selection, and information equality, research that is directly related to the charter of this working group. If anyone on the list is involved in, or has heard of similar or related research please let me know. Best, Mark Lizar On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:29, Mark Lizar wrote: > > HI All, > > I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday > due to post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, Wed, > and Fri, if those days are available I would be able to participate > more often, Wednesday being the best day. As for an agenda item it > would be good to take stock of working groups which may be related > to see if there are ways to draw on similar efforts or energies. > > I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in the > privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major interest in > addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of interest is > also present in global standardization for privacy protection. In > this way perhaps VPI can provide some timely input. Regardless, I > look forward to more discussion and being able to participate more > frequently. > > - Mark > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. >> >> I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to >> flag up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is >> my meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI >> agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short >> version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the >> structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of >> detail to work through. >> >> One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at >> present does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those >> who this time does not suit e-mail me back with other options which >> typically would work better and we'll see if there is an obvious >> better time for all. >> >> Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings >> >> Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday >> 19th Feb 09) >> 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 >> CET; >> >> Dial In: >> >> US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 >> >> US toll number: 650-429-3300 >> >> SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# >> >> Cheers >> >> Iain >> >> >> Iain Henderson >> iain.henderson at mydex.org >> >> This email and any attachment contains information which is private >> and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are >> not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- >> mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, >> please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sig-vpi mailing list >> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-vpi mailing list > Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org From iain.henderson at mydex.org Thu Mar 5 04:44:40 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:44:40 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> Message-ID: <54D09CE7-1F6F-4344-9FCC-36D80C94F589@mydex.org> Thanks Mark, i'll take an overview of the different time options - I expect we'll put a time in place for the call in two weeks time that will allow you to join. Cheers Iain On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:29, Mark Lizar wrote: > > HI All, > > I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday > due to post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, Wed, > and Fri, if those days are available I would be able to participate > more often, Wednesday being the best day. As for an agenda item it > would be good to take stock of working groups which may be related > to see if there are ways to draw on similar efforts or energies. > > I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in the > privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major interest in > addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of interest is > also present in global standardization for privacy protection. In > this way perhaps VPI can provide some timely input. Regardless, I > look forward to more discussion and being able to participate more > frequently. > > - Mark > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. >> >> I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to >> flag up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is >> my meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI >> agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short >> version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the >> structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of >> detail to work through. >> >> One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at >> present does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those >> who this time does not suit e-mail me back with other options which >> typically would work better and we'll see if there is an obvious >> better time for all. >> >> Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings >> >> Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday >> 19th Feb 09) >> 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 >> CET; >> >> Dial In: >> >> US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 >> >> US toll number: 650-429-3300 >> >> SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# >> >> Cheers >> >> Iain >> >> >> Iain Henderson >> iain.henderson at mydex.org >> >> This email and any attachment contains information which is private >> and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are >> not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- >> mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, >> please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sig-vpi mailing list >> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org > Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. From iain.henderson at mydex.org Thu Mar 5 04:47:08 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:47:08 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> Message-ID: <3C5C552C-7360-477E-B485-611159514A54@mydex.org> Thanks Mark, i'll bear that in mind - at some point we'll need to think about research for VPI? Brett - is there any mechanic from bringing funds into the SIG (or under NewOrg) if we wished to do some consumer research? Or would that type of activity have to sit outside? Cheers Iain On 4 Mar 2009, at 13:09, Mark Lizar wrote: > > One point I neglected to mention. > > I am currently working towards designing research to illuminate the > value differences which are apparent when individuals are forced to > sign organization-centric privacy policies/ terms of use then this > places limitations on the information that will be shared. Focusing > on issues that illuminate digital information autonomy in service > selection, and information equality, research that is directly > related to the charter of this working group. If anyone on the list > is involved in, or has heard of similar or related research please > let me know. > > Best, > > Mark Lizar > > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:29, Mark Lizar wrote: > >> >> HI All, >> >> I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday >> due to post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, >> Wed, and Fri, if those days are available I would be able to >> participate more often, Wednesday being the best day. As for an >> agenda item it would be good to take stock of working groups which >> may be related to see if there are ways to draw on similar efforts >> or energies. >> >> I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in >> the privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major >> interest in addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of >> interest is also present in global standardization for privacy >> protection. In this way perhaps VPI can provide some timely >> input. Regardless, I look forward to more discussion and being >> able to participate more frequently. >> >> - Mark >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. >>> >>> I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to >>> flag up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is >>> my meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI >>> agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short >>> version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the >>> structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of >>> detail to work through. >>> >>> One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at >>> present does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could >>> those who this time does not suit e-mail me back with other >>> options which typically would work better and we'll see if there >>> is an obvious better time for all. >>> >>> Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings >>> >>> Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday >>> 19th Feb 09) >>> 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 >>> CET; >>> >>> Dial In: >>> >>> US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 >>> >>> US toll number: 650-429-3300 >>> >>> SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Iain >>> >>> >>> Iain Henderson >>> iain.henderson at mydex.org >>> >>> This email and any attachment contains information which is >>> private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. >>> If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy >>> or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e- >>> mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then >>> destroy it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sig-vpi mailing list >>> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sig-vpi mailing list >> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org > Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. From joni at ieee-isto.org Thu Mar 5 08:43:42 2009 From: joni at ieee-isto.org (Joni Brennan) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:43:42 -0800 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: <3C5C552C-7360-477E-B485-611159514A54@mydex.org> References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> <3C5C552C-7360-477E-B485-611159514A54@mydex.org> Message-ID: <947ea3330903050843w55428139wbbe404c755aeef44@mail.gmail.com> Hi Iain, The VPI SIG could make a case to the Management Board for possible funding of a project, however, in the NewOrg a resourcing discussion is part of the process and as such the group may have better results making the request under NewOrg vs now. I will be on the call shortly and can discuss further there if you like. Cheers, Joni On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Iain Henderson wrote: > Thanks Mark, i'll bear that in mind - at some point we'll need to think > about research for VPI? > > Brett - is there any mechanic from bringing funds into the SIG (or under > NewOrg) if we wished to do some consumer research? Or would that type of > activity have to sit outside? > > Cheers > > Iain > > > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 13:09, Mark Lizar wrote: > > >> One point I neglected to mention. >> >> I am currently working towards designing research to illuminate the value >> differences which are apparent when individuals are forced to sign >> organization-centric privacy policies/ terms of use then this places >> limitations on the information that will be shared. Focusing on issues that >> illuminate digital information autonomy in service selection, and >> information equality, research that is directly related to the charter of >> this working group. If anyone on the list is involved in, or has heard of >> similar or related research please let me know. >> >> Best, >> >> Mark Lizar >> >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:29, Mark Lizar wrote: >> >> >>> HI All, >>> >>> I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday due to >>> post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, Wed, and Fri, if >>> those days are available I would be able to participate more often, >>> Wednesday being the best day. As for an agenda item it would be good to >>> take stock of working groups which may be related to see if there are ways >>> to draw on similar efforts or energies. >>> >>> I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in the >>> privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major interest in >>> addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of interest is also >>> present in global standardization for privacy protection. In this way >>> perhaps VPI can provide some timely input. Regardless, I look forward to >>> more discussion and being able to participate more frequently. >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >>> On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. >>>> >>>> I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to flag up >>>> anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is my meet with the >>>> lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI agreement. I'll get into >>>> more detail on the call, but the short version is that they see no LEGAL >>>> problem with the intent and the structure of the document - although there >>>> is inevitably lots of detail to work through. >>>> >>>> One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at present >>>> does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those who this time >>>> does not suit e-mail me back with other options which typically would work >>>> better and we'll see if there is an obvious better time for all. >>>> >>>> Call details for Thursday are below and at >>>> http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings >>>> >>>> Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday 19th >>>> Feb 09) >>>> 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 CET; >>>> >>>> Dial In: >>>> >>>> US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 >>>> >>>> US toll number: 650-429-3300 >>>> >>>> SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Iain >>>> >>>> >>>> Iain Henderson >>>> iain.henderson at mydex.org >>>> >>>> This email and any attachment contains information which is private and >>>> confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an >>>> addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any >>>> attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the >>>> sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sig-vpi mailing list >>>> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >>>> >>>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sig-vpi mailing list >>> Sig-vpi at lists.projectliberty.org >>> >>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-vpi_lists.projectliberty.org >>> >> >> > Iain Henderson > iain.henderson at mydex.org > > This email and any attachment contains information which is private and > confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an > addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any > attachment. 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URL: From iain.henderson at mydex.org Thu Mar 5 09:01:47 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:01:47 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call This Thursday In-Reply-To: <947ea3330903050843w55428139wbbe404c755aeef44@mail.gmail.com> References: <28E68AA0-9F27-4B89-A4D7-5DDC45BC70E7@mydex.org> <35CF7312-91A9-4D0A-822D-9FE6F8C8AFEC@smartspecies.com> <3C5C552C-7360-477E-B485-611159514A54@mydex.org> <947ea3330903050843w55428139wbbe404c755aeef44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49AF7525-CE15-43C8-925C-2357EDD54F4F@mydex.org> That sounds good Joni, we'll discuss on the call. On 5 Mar 2009, at 16:43, Joni Brennan wrote: > Hi Iain, > > The VPI SIG could make a case to the Management Board for possible > funding of a project, however, in the NewOrg a resourcing discussion > is part of the process and as such the group may have better results > making the request under NewOrg vs now. > > I will be on the call shortly and can discuss further there if you > like. > > Cheers, > > Joni > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Iain Henderson > wrote: > Thanks Mark, i'll bear that in mind - at some point we'll need to > think about research for VPI? > > Brett - is there any mechanic from bringing funds into the SIG (or > under NewOrg) if we wished to do some consumer research? Or would > that type of activity have to sit outside? > > Cheers > > Iain > > > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 13:09, Mark Lizar wrote: > > > One point I neglected to mention. > > I am currently working towards designing research to illuminate the > value differences which are apparent when individuals are forced to > sign organization-centric privacy policies/ terms of use then this > places limitations on the information that will be shared. Focusing > on issues that illuminate digital information autonomy in service > selection, and information equality, research that is directly > related to the charter of this working group. If anyone on the list > is involved in, or has heard of similar or related research please > let me know. > > Best, > > Mark Lizar > > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 12:29, Mark Lizar wrote: > > > HI All, > > I have been lurking on the list unable to participate on Thursday > due to post-graduate responsibilities. I am available on Mon, Wed, > and Fri, if those days are available I would be able to participate > more often, Wednesday being the best day. As for an agenda item it > would be good to take stock of working groups which may be related > to see if there are ways to draw on similar efforts or energies. > > I know that there is a lot of interest from a few communities in the > privacy icon arena at the moment, as well as some major interest in > addressing trust in the IDM sphere. A great deal of interest is > also present in global standardization for privacy protection. In > this way perhaps VPI can provide some timely input. Regardless, I > look forward to more discussion and being able to participate more > frequently. > > - Mark > > > On 4 Mar 2009, at 10:38, Iain Henderson wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > This is just a reminder that we have a call this Thursday. > > I've not yet had time to knock together an agenda (feel free to flag > up anything you want to cover). One thing I will update on is my > meet with the lawyers last Friday on the early draft of the VPI > agreement. I'll get into more detail on the call, but the short > version is that they see no LEGAL problem with the intent and the > structure of the document - although there is inevitably lots of > detail to work through. > > One other thing that occurs, is that the call time we use at present > does not seem to suit quite a few on the list - could those who this > time does not suit e-mail me back with other options which typically > would work better and we'll see if there is an obvious better time > for all. > > Call details for Thursday are below and at http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/VolunteeredPersonalInformationSIG#Meetings > > Teleconference Schedule: Every second Thursday (next call Thursday > 19th Feb 09) > 09:00am-10:00am PST, 12:00 -13:00 EST, 17.00-18.00 UK, 18.00-19.00 > CET; > > Dial In: > > US toll-free number: 866-469-3239 > > US toll number: 650-429-3300 > > SIG Meeting Number or Access Code: 78701111# > > Cheers > > Iain > > > Iain Henderson > iain.henderson at mydex.org > > This email and any attachment contains information which is private > and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. 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From iain.henderson at mydex.org Thu Mar 19 02:03:26 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:03:26 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] Call on Thursday 19th Cancelled Message-ID: <72F3FE45-F9CB-404D-89C8-C0B3C1266AEF@mydex.org> Folks, we are due to have a call tomorrow but i'll only just have got back from SXSW and won't have had time to set and agenda. To cut a long story short, we made A LOT of progress at SXSW through a lot of face to face time with Doc, Joe, Bill and Elias all in town and multiple other interested parties emerging as the event unfolded. I'll write that up prior to the next call. I suggest we cancel the call on 19th. Separately, we need to find a time ongoing that will work for more of the folks on the list - i'll send a Doodle out on that when I recover from the flight (or more accurately from SXSW activities!!!!). Cheers Iain Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. From iain.henderson at mydex.org Thu Mar 26 08:57:27 2009 From: iain.henderson at mydex.org (Iain Henderson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:57:27 +0000 Subject: [Sig-vpi] New Time for VPI Calls? Message-ID: <3801CE96-C3E0-4DB4-9CE8-013F07938A1A@mydex.org> Folks, I said a couple of weeks back that we'd look for a time when more on the list could make it, so here goes. Could you each fill in your preferred options on this Doodle for a call every second week - beginning w/c 6th April. http://www.doodle.com/fzfw98h3xtxpm493 There is about to be a significant upturn in activity in this area as a result of a lot of face to face meeting time that I had with Joe, Bill and Doc at SXSW in Austin. We also need to complete the re- chartering process as Liberty migrates to NewOrg - more on that re- chartering early next week. Get back to me with any queries or suggestions on the meeting mechanics. Cheers Iain Iain Henderson iain.henderson at mydex.org This email and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e- mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it.