From donsch at windows.microsoft.com Thu Jul 10 12:51:49 2008 From: donsch at windows.microsoft.com (Don Schmidt) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:51:49 -0700 Subject: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases In-Reply-To: References: <6D9427F3-30A5-4823-B4C1-A8FDE5DC4F3D@Sun.COM> <11E86E29-8F33-4690-A5F9-973047108E6F@projectliberty.org> <48602B46.7020304@rogers.com> <1B47D24854C7BC4FA8DA28BEBB59B0BA03927DE1@orsmsx419.amr.corp.intel.com> <4862711D.5030406@rogers.com>

Message-ID: <60BD80BD555E91479F996CCB05EB849808B0A58225@NA-EXMSG-W601.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> Brett, I am physically back in Redmond. However, having spent a month in the jungles and mountains of Peru ... I am having some difficulty remembering why computers were so important to me in a former life. :) To John Bradley's question, I will start working through the email threads and responding where it seems useful. Please be patient, as I returned to over 4K unread messages and it will take me awhile to catch up to everyone else on these discussions. --des Don Schmidt Principal Program Manager Federated Identity Microsoft Corporation (425) 703-2655 From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of Brett McDowell Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:05 PM To: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases How about Seattle in August just to get things moving sooner than later. Do we have key contributors out in August? On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Britta Glade wrote: Don Schmidt's on vacation until around July 4--I imagine he'll pipe up then. On the DIDW note, conference starts in the afternoon of Sept 8. They are doing pre-con workshop type things in the morning (but not as flexible as years past). I've been working with the organizers on some other things. I can see if we can get room for a meeting the morning of sept. 8 if folks want--just let me know. --b. On 6/25/08, John Bradley > wrote: If we meet in Seattle or Vancouver I am flexible:) I suspect the next time that a number of us will converge will be DIDW Sep 8- 10. As one of the XRDS spec authors I am of course grateful for Tony's support. There appears to be a couple of places that XRDS are being considered in this. 1. As a key peace of validating an openID claim. 2. As a way of doing public service discovery to find a EPR. 3. As a way for Higgins r-cards to preform service discovery in conjunction with Parity's/Higgins UDI. (http://www.parity.com/spec/udi/udi-syntax.html) There may well be others that I am unaware of. That is one of the reasons for Andy and myself working on the use cases. At some point the XRI-TC may need to consider splitting the XRDS spec from the XRI 2.0 resolution spec. That may better reflect the needs of oAuth, openID and other projects that make use of XRDS. If people have opinions on that let me know so that they can be considered as the XRI-TC regroups for XRI 2.1 or whatever it will be called. I am curious to hear from the Microsoft people. I haven't seen them on the list yet. Regards John Bradley =jbradley On 25-Jun-08, at 10:19 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote: Can you give a general idea of time frame, June, July, August ? Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122 Paul Madsen ---06/25/2008 11:24:25 AM---I'll add privacy policy to the 'wsh list' From: Paul Madsen > To: Anthony Nadalin/Austin/IBM at IBMUS Cc: "Cahill, Conor P" >, Brett McDowell >, Eve Maler >, sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org, sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org Date: 06/25/2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases ________________________________ I'll add privacy policy to the 'wsh list' I agree with Conor that F2F time is needed. Tony, could you let us know your availability so we can plan accordingly (said with love) paul Anthony Nadalin wrote: > > It would also be nice if we could also > > 1. get agreement on service metadata between WS-Federation, SAML, > ID-WSF as this would simplify deployments > 2. see how we can get agreement on context (security, authorization, etc) > 3. maybe some agreement on common claims, attributes > > Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122 > > Inactive hide details for "Cahill, Conor P" ---06/25/2008 08:06:40 > AM---Re the ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization, I wasn't aware that"Cahill, > Conor P" ---06/25/2008 08:06:40 AM---Re the ID-WSF & WS-* > harmonization, I wasn't aware that the scope was > > > From: > "Cahill, Conor P" > > > To: > "Paul Madsen" >, "Brett McDowell" > > > > Cc: > sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org, Eve Maler > > > Date: > 06/25/2008 08:06 AM > > Subject: > Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Re the ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization, I wasn't aware that the scope was > just to allow a WSC to obtain security tokens. I believe it is a > broader scope of harmonizing the two specification sets. > > Tony through out some ideas (not that I agree with them all -- no > surprise there :-)) and I think there are probably others. The > kinds of tasks that I see on the map for that project include: > > * redefine AS in terms of WS-Trust > * redefine SSOS in terms of WS-Trust > * redefine IDPS in terms of WS-Trust > * Change service metadata definition and EPR definitions to > align with WS-Trust, WS-SecurityPolicy and WS-Policy > * Examine ID-WSF SOAP Bindings to figure out how other > changes need to get merged in. WS-Security and WS-A > are already profiled. There's a couple of headers that > we've defined that were not clearly supported in WS-* > at the time (and my still not be). > * Examine ID-WSF Security Mechanisms model the > mechanisms in terms of WS-SecurityPolicy > * Examine ID-WSF Discovery service and change to support > the new service metadata and EPR definitions while also > evaluating the functionality itself (I'm not convinced > XRDS meets the needs as Tony appears to be cocnvinced of). > * Examine other areas of ID-WSF to see what to do about > the components that don't appear to have clear overlap > -- notably the InteractionService and People Service as > well as the SIS (though I think an argument could be made > that the SIS specs are out of scope of this effort). > > As far as use cases, I think the standard operations that are supported > by Liberty should be examined as well as any new cases or modifications > to those cases that are of interest to the non-liberty players now at > the table. > > My $.02 is that the best way for this stuff to proceed forward is to > start with some F2F time so that wee can talk though things with > a whiteboard. Trying to do this via email is a royal pain especially > when we each bring our own experiences, preferences and interests to > the table -- we could waste an awful lot of time sending emails past > each other (especially if Tony's around :-)). > > Conor > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh- > > bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:01 PM > > To: Brett McDowell > > Cc: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org; Eve Maler > > Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > > > the connection I see between the two (somewhat seemingly disconnected) > > WSH focus areas is > > > > a) ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization implies profiling WS-Trust to allow a > WSC > > to obtain security tokens > > b) the above (may) implies separating discovery from token issuance > > c) separating discovery from token issuance introduces the possibility > > of using different discovery mechanisms, like XRDS > > d) some of Andy/John's scenarios (we need a better descriptor) touch > on > > the above application of XRDS > > > > paul > > > > Brett McDowell wrote: > > > Thanks Eve for getting this thread started. > > > > > > Andy or John, are you on this email list (I think you are but > consider > > > this a test message to that fact)? Could you provide a little > context > > > around your use-case(s) and how you might expect ID-WSF and WS* > > > harmonization to be relevant to supporting your use-case(s)? > > > > > > -- Brett > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Eve Maler wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Hi, all. Looks like we've got a "wish sig"! (I'd been hoping for > a > > >> name like WS-Harmony but this is good too. :-) ) > > >> > > >> The plan, I believe, is to schedule a telecon for July to ensure we > > >> an include various folks once they've returned from vacation. So > > >> we've got some time now to get some thoughts on the table if we > want > > >> to. > > >> > > >> John Bradley has told me it's okay for me to send out the use case > > >> document that Andy Dale put together a week or so ago, so I've > > >> attached that below with his accompanying comments. It's always > > >> valuable to have something to work off of! I think it's a great > > >> start and is, in parts, quite thought-provoking. There's a > category > > >> of use cases not addressed here that we still need to tackle, which > > >> has to do with straight-ahead managed services environments in > which > > >> both "plain" STS's and ID-WSF services play a big part. I'm hoping > > >> to get the okay to send out some stuff that's been previously > > >> written on this topic. Stay tuned. > > >> > > >> Eve > > >> > > >> ==== > > >> Quoth Andy: > > >> > > >> "I always hate putting out the first document in this type of > > >> collaboration as I have no idea what the expectations are and just > > >> how far off mark I might be.... However, I do it anyway and that's > > >> why we get things done. > > >> > > >> So if nothing else this doc should give us something to work > against > > >> and 'correct'. > > >> > > >> Once we have agreed upon our base set of UseCases I imagine a bunch > > >> of 'templates' that get completed for each possible solution. The > > >> template will include things like: > > >> > > >> - Actual user flow description based on this solution (infoCards vs > > >> OP redirect, etc...) > > >> - What technology each actor would have to deploy for this solution > > >> and how many man days it 'might' take to do that. (including client > > >> side requirements for end users) > > >> - Privacy Profile - How much data is publicly available? Does the > > >> user NEED a global ID? Is discovery leaking information? > > >> - Complete Sequence diagram of interactions (including resolution > > >> and discovery steps). > > >> > > >> If there is agreement that this is a good direction then I am happy > > >> to work on the template and then to complete the template for the > > >> pure 'i-names/OpenID' implementations as those are the ones I know > > >> the best. > > >> > > >> PLEASE: if you have a better process/idea... let me know." > > >> ==== > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 > > >> Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com > > >> Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Sig-wsh mailing list > > >> Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sig-wsh mailing list > > > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Paul Madsen e:paulmadsen @ ntt-at.com > > NTT p:613-482-0432 > > m:613-282-8647 > > aim:PaulMdsn5 > > web:connectid.blogspot.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sig-wsh mailing list > > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1518 - Release Date: 25/06/2008 9:46 AM > -- Paul Madsen e:paulmadsen @ ntt-at.com NTT p:613-482-0432 m:613-282-8647 aim:PaulMdsn5 web:connectid.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org -- Britta Glade Liberty Alliance 925-254-4233 _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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<60BD80BD555E91479F996CCB05EB849808B0A58225@NA-EXMSG-W601.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com> Message-ID: <0DA45483-BA91-4E51-9848-01693625644E@projectliberty.org> Understood. Welcome back! On Jul 10, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Don Schmidt wrote: > Brett, > > I am physically back in Redmond. However, having spent a month in > the jungles and mountains of Peru ? I am having some difficulty > remembering why computers were so important to me in a former life. J > > To John Bradley?s question, I will start working through the email > threads and responding where it seems useful. Please be patient, as > I returned to over 4K unread messages and it will take me awhile to > catch up to everyone else on these discussions. > > --des > > Don Schmidt > Principal Program Manager > Federated Identity > Microsoft Corporation > (425) 703-2655 > > From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org > ] On Behalf Of Brett McDowell > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:05 PM > To: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > How about Seattle in August just to get things moving sooner than > later. Do we have key contributors out in August? > > On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Britta Glade wrote: > > > Don Schmidt's on vacation until around July 4--I imagine he'll pipe > up then. > > On the DIDW note, conference starts in the afternoon of Sept 8. > They are doing pre-con workshop type things in the morning (but not > as flexible as years past). I've been working with the organizers > on some other things. I can see if we can get room for a meeting > the morning of sept. 8 if folks want--just let me know. > > --b. > > On 6/25/08, John Bradley wrote: > If we meet in Seattle or Vancouver I am flexible:) > > > I suspect the next time that a number of us will converge will be > DIDW Sep 8- 10. > > > As one of the XRDS spec authors I am of course grateful for Tony's > support. > > > There appears to be a couple of places that XRDS are being > considered in this. > > > 1. As a key peace of validating an openID claim. > 2. As a way of doing public service discovery to find a EPR. > 3. As a way for Higgins r-cards to preform service discovery in > conjunction with Parity's/Higgins UDI. (http://www.parity.com/spec/udi/udi-syntax.html > ) > > > There may well be others that I am unaware of. That is one of the > reasons for Andy and myself working on the use cases. > > > At some point the XRI-TC may need to consider splitting the XRDS > spec from the XRI 2.0 resolution spec. > That may better reflect the needs of oAuth, openID and other > projects that make use of XRDS. > If people have opinions on that let me know so that they can be > considered as the XRI-TC regroups for XRI 2.1 or whatever it will be > called. > > > I am curious to hear from the Microsoft people. I haven't seen them > on the list yet. > > > Regards > John Bradley > =jbradley > > > > On 25-Jun-08, at 10:19 AM, Anthony Nadalin wrote: > > > Can you give a general idea of time frame, June, July, August ? > > Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122 > > Paul Madsen ---06/25/2008 11:24:25 AM---I'll add > privacy policy to the 'wsh list' > > > From: > > Paul Madsen > > To: > > Anthony Nadalin/Austin/IBM at IBMUS > > Cc: > > "Cahill, Conor P" , Brett McDowell >, Eve Maler , sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org, sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org > > Date: > > 06/25/2008 11:24 AM > > Subject: > > > Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > > > I'll add privacy policy to the 'wsh list' > > I agree with Conor that F2F time is needed. Tony, could you let us > know > your availability so we can plan accordingly (said with love) > > paul > > Anthony Nadalin wrote: > > > > It would also be nice if we could also > > > > 1. get agreement on service metadata between WS-Federation, SAML, > > ID-WSF as this would simplify deployments > > 2. see how we can get agreement on context (security, > authorization, etc) > > 3. maybe some agreement on common claims, attributes > > > > Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122 > > > > Inactive hide details for "Cahill, Conor P" ---06/25/2008 08:06:40 > > AM---Re the ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization, I wasn't aware that"Cahill, > > Conor P" ---06/25/2008 08:06:40 AM---Re the ID-WSF & WS-* > > harmonization, I wasn't aware that the scope was > > > > > > From: > > "Cahill, Conor P" > > > > To: > > "Paul Madsen" , "Brett McDowell" > > > > > > Cc: > > sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org, Eve Maler > > > > Date: > > 06/25/2008 08:06 AM > > > > Subject: > > Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Re the ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization, I wasn't aware that the scope > was > > just to allow a WSC to obtain security tokens. I believe it is a > > broader scope of harmonizing the two specification sets. > > > > Tony through out some ideas (not that I agree with them all -- no > > surprise there :-)) and I think there are probably others. The > > kinds of tasks that I see on the map for that project include: > > > > * redefine AS in terms of WS-Trust > > * redefine SSOS in terms of WS-Trust > > * redefine IDPS in terms of WS-Trust > > * Change service metadata definition and EPR definitions to > > align with WS-Trust, WS-SecurityPolicy and WS-Policy > > * Examine ID-WSF SOAP Bindings to figure out how other > > changes need to get merged in. WS-Security and WS-A > > are already profiled. There's a couple of headers that > > we've defined that were not clearly supported in WS-* > > at the time (and my still not be). > > * Examine ID-WSF Security Mechanisms model the > > mechanisms in terms of WS-SecurityPolicy > > * Examine ID-WSF Discovery service and change to support > > the new service metadata and EPR definitions while also > > evaluating the functionality itself (I'm not convinced > > XRDS meets the needs as Tony appears to be cocnvinced of). > > * Examine other areas of ID-WSF to see what to do about > > the components that don't appear to have clear overlap > > -- notably the InteractionService and People Service as > > well as the SIS (though I think an argument could be made > > that the SIS specs are out of scope of this effort). > > > > As far as use cases, I think the standard operations that are > supported > > by Liberty should be examined as well as any new cases or > modifications > > to those cases that are of interest to the non-liberty players now > at > > the table. > > > > My $.02 is that the best way for this stuff to proceed forward is to > > start with some F2F time so that wee can talk though things with > > a whiteboard. Trying to do this via email is a royal pain > especially > > when we each bring our own experiences, preferences and interests to > > the table -- we could waste an awful lot of time sending emails past > > each other (especially if Tony's around :-)). > > > > Conor > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh- > > > bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:01 PM > > > To: Brett McDowell > > > Cc: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org; Eve Maler > > > Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] Beginning to collect use cases > > > > > > the connection I see between the two (somewhat seemingly > disconnected) > > > WSH focus areas is > > > > > > a) ID-WSF & WS-* harmonization implies profiling WS-Trust to > allow a > > WSC > > > to obtain security tokens > > > b) the above (may) implies separating discovery from token > issuance > > > c) separating discovery from token issuance introduces the > possibility > > > of using different discovery mechanisms, like XRDS > > > d) some of Andy/John's scenarios (we need a better descriptor) > touch > > on > > > the above application of XRDS > > > > > > paul > > > > > > Brett McDowell wrote: > > > > Thanks Eve for getting this thread started. > > > > > > > > Andy or John, are you on this email list (I think you are but > > consider > > > > this a test message to that fact)? Could you provide a little > > context > > > > around your use-case(s) and how you might expect ID-WSF and WS* > > > > harmonization to be relevant to supporting your use-case(s)? > > > > > > > > -- Brett > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Eve Maler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi, all. Looks like we've got a "wish sig"! (I'd been > hoping for > > a > > > >> name like WS-Harmony but this is good too. :-) ) > > > >> > > > >> The plan, I believe, is to schedule a telecon for July to > ensure we > > > >> an include various folks once they've returned from > vacation. So > > > >> we've got some time now to get some thoughts on the table if we > > want > > > >> to. > > > >> > > > >> John Bradley has told me it's okay for me to send out the use > case > > > >> document that Andy Dale put together a week or so ago, so I've > > > >> attached that below with his accompanying comments. It's > always > > > >> valuable to have something to work off of! I think it's a > great > > > >> start and is, in parts, quite thought-provoking. There's a > > category > > > >> of use cases not addressed here that we still need to tackle, > which > > > >> has to do with straight-ahead managed services environments in > > which > > > >> both "plain" STS's and ID-WSF services play a big part. I'm > hoping > > > >> to get the okay to send out some stuff that's been previously > > > >> written on this topic. Stay tuned. > > > >> > > > >> Eve > > > >> > > > >> ==== > > > >> Quoth Andy: > > > >> > > > >> "I always hate putting out the first document in this type of > > > >> collaboration as I have no idea what the expectations are and > just > > > >> how far off mark I might be.... However, I do it anyway and > that's > > > >> why we get things done. > > > >> > > > >> So if nothing else this doc should give us something to work > > against > > > >> and 'correct'. > > > >> > > > >> Once we have agreed upon our base set of UseCases I imagine a > bunch > > > >> of 'templates' that get completed for each possible solution. > The > > > >> template will include things like: > > > >> > > > >> - Actual user flow description based on this solution > (infoCards vs > > > >> OP redirect, etc...) > > > >> - What technology each actor would have to deploy for this > solution > > > >> and how many man days it 'might' take to do that. (including > client > > > >> side requirements for end users) > > > >> - Privacy Profile - How much data is publicly available? Does > the > > > >> user NEED a global ID? Is discovery leaking information? > > > >> - Complete Sequence diagram of interactions (including > resolution > > > >> and discovery steps). > > > >> > > > >> If there is agreement that this is a good direction then I am > happy > > > >> to work on the template and then to complete the template for > the > > > >> pure 'i-names/OpenID' implementations as those are the ones I > know > > > >> the best. > > > >> > > > >> PLEASE: if you have a better process/idea... let me know." > > > >> ==== > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Eve Maler +1 425 947 > 4522 > > > >> Principal Engineer eve.maler @ > sun.com > > > >> Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, > Inc. > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Sig-wsh mailing list > > > >> Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > > >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Sig-wsh mailing list > > > > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > > > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Madsen e:paulmadsen @ ntt-at.com > > > NTT p:613-482-0432 > > > m:613-282-8647 > > > aim:PaulMdsn5 > > > web:connectid.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sig-wsh mailing list > > > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > > > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sig-wsh mailing list > > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1518 - Release Date: > 25/06/2008 9:46 AM > > > > -- > Paul Madsen e:paulmadsen @ ntt-at.com > NTT p:613-482-0432 > m:613-282-8647 > aim:PaulMdsn5 > web:connectid.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > > > -- > Britta Glade > Liberty Alliance > 925-254-4233 > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/attachments/20080711/4b2b7693/attachment-0001.html From Eve.Maler at Sun.COM Thu Jul 31 09:24:42 2008 From: Eve.Maler at Sun.COM (Eve Maler) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup Message-ID: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different config as necessary. Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three categories: - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy framework (initially scoped by Conor): http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000010.html - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially scoped by Tony): http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000011.html - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 ) Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list on this page for reference: http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if we can knock out some good use-case work in August... Eve Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. From conor.p.cahill at intel.com Thu Jul 31 09:42:48 2008 From: conor.p.cahill at intel.com (Cahill, Conor P) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:42:48 -0700 Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup In-Reply-To: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> References: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> Message-ID: <1B47D24854C7BC4FA8DA28BEBB59B0BA03B8ED42@orsmsx419.amr.corp.intel.com> Monday/Tuesday (11/12) would probably be best for me. I cannot make Friday 8/15, nor anything the following week (18th/19th). We could also do the full day on the first day and half day on the second (us east coasters would just come out the night before and wouldn't have to do the red-eye back). Conor > -----Original Message----- > From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh- > bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of Eve Maler > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:25 PM > To: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup > > A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a > great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. > I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting > room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not > lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. > > The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. > Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that > east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home > if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different > config as necessary. > > Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm > Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm > Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm > Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm > Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm > > The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three categories: > > - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy > framework (initially scoped by Conor): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000010.html > > - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially > scoped by Tony): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000011.html > > - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent > systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of > cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in > Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see > http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 > ) > > Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use > cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig > into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list > on this page for reference: > > http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics > > Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if > we can knock out some good use-case work in August... > > Eve > > Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 > Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com > Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org From john.bradley at wingaa.com Thu Jul 31 10:11:33 2008 From: john.bradley at wingaa.com (John Bradley) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:11:33 -0700 Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup In-Reply-To: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> References: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> Message-ID: <4F83DE48-A61D-42E8-89A0-FAD4FC88A786@wingaa.com> I can drive down for the 11-12, 12-13 or 13-14. The other dates are harder as I need to be in SF the 15-18. John Bradley =jbradley On 31-Jul-08, at 9:24 AM, Eve Maler wrote: > A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a > great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. > I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting > room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not > lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. > > The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. > Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that > east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home > if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different > config as necessary. > > Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm > Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm > Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm > Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm > Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm > > The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three > categories: > > - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy > framework (initially scoped by Conor): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000010.html > > - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially > scoped by Tony): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000011.html > > - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent > systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of > cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in > Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 > ) > > Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use > cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig > into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list > on this page for reference: > > http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics > > Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if > we can knock out some good use-case work in August... > > Eve > > Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 > Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com > Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/attachments/20080731/f243aaf1/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The other dates are harder as > I need to be in SF the 15-18. > > John Bradley > =jbradley > > On 31-Jul-08, at 9:24 AM, Eve Maler wrote: > >> A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a >> great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. >> I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting >> room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not >> lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. >> >> The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. >> Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that >> east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home >> if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different >> config as necessary. >> >> Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm >> Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm >> Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm >> Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm >> Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm >> >> The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three categories: >> >> - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy >> framework (initially scoped by Conor): >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/20 >> 08-June/000010.html >> >> - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially >> scoped by Tony): >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/20 >> 08-June/000011.html >> >> - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent >> systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of >> cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in >> Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see >> http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 >> ) >> >> Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use >> cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig >> into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list >> on this page for reference: >> >> http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics >> >> Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if >> we can knock out some good use-case work in August... >> >> Eve >> >> Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 >> Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com >> Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sig-wsh mailing list >> Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty >> .org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty. > org -- ____________________________________________________ Eric Tiffany | eric at projectliberty.org Interop Tech Lead | +1 413-458-3743 Liberty Alliance | +1 413-627-1778 mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/attachments/20080731/52933234/attachment-0001.html From john.bradley at wingaa.com Thu Jul 31 11:28:22 2008 From: john.bradley at wingaa.com (John Bradley) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:28:22 -0700 Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The 25-29 are OK for me, if that works better for others. John Bradley =jbradley On 31-Jul-08, at 11:22 AM, Eric Tiffany wrote: > Well, I?ll be in Seattle starting Aug 22 until the end of the month, > if that week works any better (and if anyone cares). > > ET > > > > On 7/31/08 1:11 PM, "John Bradley" wrote: > >> I can drive down for the 11-12, 12-13 or 13-14. The other dates >> are harder as I need to be in SF the 15-18. >> >> John Bradley >> =jbradley >> >> On 31-Jul-08, at 9:24 AM, Eve Maler wrote: >> >>> A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a >>> great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. >>> I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting >>> room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not >>> lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. >>> >>> The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. >>> Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory >>> that >>> east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye >>> home >>> if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a >>> different >>> config as necessary. >>> >>> Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm >>> Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm >>> Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm >>> Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm >>> Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm >>> >>> The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three >>> categories: >>> >>> - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy >>> framework (initially scoped by Conor): >>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000010.html >>> >>> - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially >>> scoped by Tony): >>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000011.html >>> >>> - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent >>> systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of >>> cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in >>> Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 >>> ) >>> >>> Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use >>> cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really >>> dig >>> into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above >>> list >>> on this page for reference: >>> >>> http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics >>> >>> Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's >>> see if >>> we can knock out some good use-case work in August... >>> >>> Eve >>> >>> Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 >>> Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com >>> Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sig-wsh mailing list >>> Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org >>> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sig-wsh mailing list >> Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org >> http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org > > -- > ____________________________________________________ > Eric Tiffany | eric at projectliberty.org > Interop Tech Lead | +1 413-458-3743 > Liberty Alliance | +1 413-627-1778 mobile > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <1B47D24854C7BC4FA8DA28BEBB59B0BA03B8EE35@orsmsx419.amr.corp.intel.com> Won't work for me. Conor From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:28 PM To: Eric Tiffany Cc: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org; Eve Maler Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup The 25-29 are OK for me, if that works better for others. John Bradley =jbradley On 31-Jul-08, at 11:22 AM, Eric Tiffany wrote: Well, I'll be in Seattle starting Aug 22 until the end of the month, if that week works any better (and if anyone cares). ET On 7/31/08 1:11 PM, "John Bradley" wrote: I can drive down for the 11-12, 12-13 or 13-14. The other dates are harder as I need to be in SF the 15-18. John Bradley =jbradley On 31-Jul-08, at 9:24 AM, Eve Maler wrote: A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different config as necessary. Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three categories: - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy framework (initially scoped by Conor): http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.o rg/2008-June/000010.html - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially scoped by Tony): http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.o rg/2008-June/000011.html - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 ) Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list on this page for reference: http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if we can knock out some good use-case work in August... Eve Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectli berty.org ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectli berty.org -- ____________________________________________________ Eric Tiffany | eric at projectliberty.org Interop Tech Lead | +1 413-458-3743 Liberty Alliance | +1 413-627-1778 mobile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/attachments/20080731/f6af5807/attachment-0001.html From drsecure at us.ibm.com Thu Jul 31 14:15:03 2008 From: drsecure at us.ibm.com (Anthony Nadalin) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:15:03 -0500 Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup In-Reply-To: <1B47D24854C7BC4FA8DA28BEBB59B0BA03B8ED42@orsmsx419.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <167FFCA2-013B-4EB1-B675-91E0C4AB18D3@sun.com> <1B47D24854C7BC4FA8DA28BEBB59B0BA03B8ED42@orsmsx419.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: bad week for me Anthony Nadalin | Work 512.838.0085 | Cell 512.289.4122 From: "Cahill, Conor P" To: "Eve Maler" , Date: 07/31/2008 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup Monday/Tuesday (11/12) would probably be best for me. I cannot make Friday 8/15, nor anything the following week (18th/19th). We could also do the full day on the first day and half day on the second (us east coasters would just come out the night before and wouldn't have to do the red-eye back). Conor > -----Original Message----- > From: sig-wsh-bounces at lists.projectliberty.org [mailto:sig-wsh- > bounces at lists.projectliberty.org] On Behalf Of Eve Maler > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:25 PM > To: sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > Subject: [Sig-wsh] August SIG-WSH meeting idea and use case roundup > > A F2F meeting in the Seattle area, for, say, a day and a half, is a > great idea if we can get a critical mass of people who can make it. > I'm generally around in August. I can even probably offer a meeting > room in Bellevue WA (that's next to Redmond), though possibly not > lunch/break goodies -- would have to check. > > The only dates I *can't* be available are Aug 7-8 and Aug 20-22. > Would any of the following options work? I'm going on the theory that > east-coasters can usefully arrive mid-day here and take a red-eye home > if they like that sort of thing, but we can do 1.5 days in a different > config as necessary. > > Mon Aug 11 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 12 9-6pm > Tue Aug 12 noon-6pm and Wed Aug 13 9-6pm > Wed Aug 13 noon-6pm and Thu Aug 14 9-6pm > Thu Aug 14 noon-6pm and Fri Aug 15 9-6pm > Mon Aug 18 noon-6pm and Tue Aug 19 9-6pm > > The topics I've seen mentioned here fall into roughly three categories: > > - Touchpoints directly between ID-WSF and the WS-Trust/Policy > framework (initially scoped by Conor): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000010.html > > - "Contextual" issues such as metadata and common claims (initially > scoped by Tony): > http://lists.projectliberty.org/pipermail/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org/2008-June/000011.html > > - "Heterogenous bootstrapping" between user-present and user-absent > systems (where the combination that hits on the largest number of > cylinders for us is probably InfoCard to ID-WSF), as touched on in > Andy's doc -- and also discussed in Concordia lately (see > http://projectconcordia.org/index.php/Concordia_telecon_29_Jul_2008 > ) > > Remember that our goal in this SIG is to articulate deployment use > cases, so we need to do some prioritization among these and really dig > into realistic scenarios. I've put Andy's document and the above list > on this page for reference: > > http://wiki.projectliberty.org/index.php/WSH_Discussion_Topics > > Thoughts on all this? We're supposed to move quickly, so let's see if > we can knock out some good use-case work in August... > > Eve > > Eve Maler +1 425 947 4522 > Principal Engineer eve.maler @ sun.com > Business Alliances group Sun Microsystems, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > Sig-wsh mailing list > Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org > http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig- > wsh_lists.projectliberty.org _______________________________________________ Sig-wsh mailing list Sig-wsh at lists.projectliberty.org http://lists.projectliberty.org/mailman/listinfo/sig-wsh_lists.projectliberty.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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